Comments on: Speaking of Talking http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/ ~Tim blathers, prints, repeats.... Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:52:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mike http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5106 Mike Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:27:49 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5106 Loved the quiz, even though it nailed me as the Wisconsinite that I am. p.s. Definitely looey-ville <em>Well, yeah, in Wisconsin it is.... ~Tim</em> Loved the quiz, even though it nailed me as the Wisconsinite that I am.

p.s.

Definitely looey-ville

Well, yeah, in Wisconsin it is…. ~Tim

]]> By: shari http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5092 shari Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:45:05 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5092 All anyone needs to know about the word "Louisville" is that it is nearly always admired when followed immediately by the word, "Slugger." Now I shall have to take the quiz. My curiosity is piqued. <em>The bats are cool, but I have to say I'm not a fan of the game. I'll be looking for your quiz results. ~Tim</em> All anyone needs to know about the word “Louisville” is that it is nearly always admired when followed immediately by the word, “Slugger.”

Now I shall have to take the quiz. My curiosity is piqued.

The bats are cool, but I have to say I’m not a fan of the game. I’ll be looking for your quiz results. ~Tim

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5074 Jennifer Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:30:56 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5074 IN RESPONSE TO: Ah, who says I ever take you seriously? [smirk] ~Tim You do realize this means war. [I can smirk better than you can.] <em>You do realize that you should</em> never <em>take</em> anything <em>seriously that I write here.</em> Ever. <em>~Tim</em> IN RESPONSE TO:
Ah, who says I ever take you seriously? [smirk] ~Tim

You do realize this means war. [I can smirk better than you can.]

You do realize that you should never take anything seriously that I write here. Ever. ~Tim

]]> By: Kate http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5073 Kate Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:46:41 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5073 I can pronounce Louisville. I knew it was from Louis the King of France. I'm a Southern Girl from Mississippi, but don't really have an accent any more. <em>It's better to be Southern than to sound Southern... maybe. ~Tim</em> I can pronounce Louisville. I knew it was from Louis the King of France. I’m a Southern Girl from Mississippi, but don’t really have an accent any more.

It’s better to be Southern than to sound Southern… maybe. ~Tim

]]> By: Southern Sweetheart http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5032 Southern Sweetheart Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:08:25 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5032 What an interesting quiz. I hopped over to the site and took it --- wow. It certainly has me pegged. I'm all southern belle! :) Maybe I'll post this to my site and do an audio post to see what others say. Many of the people on my blog I've spoken to before though or they've heard other audio blogs I've done and clearly already know my accent or um...dialect.... As for how to pronounce Louisville, I plead the 5th! :) hehe <em>Please do an audio post. You have a lovely voice. ~Tim</em> What an interesting quiz. I hopped over to the site and took it — wow. It certainly has me pegged. I’m all southern belle! :)

Maybe I’ll post this to my site and do an audio post to see what others say. Many of the people on my blog I’ve spoken to before though or they’ve heard other audio blogs I’ve done and clearly already know my accent or um…dialect….

As for how to pronounce Louisville, I plead the 5th! :) hehe

Please do an audio post. You have a lovely voice. ~Tim

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5031 Jennifer Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:00:45 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5031 Oooh, so we can argue now? Exciting! Never take me seriously when I type a comment at 6:11 a.m. prior to coffee. <em>Ah, who says I ever take you seriously? [smirk] ~Tim</em> Oooh, so we can argue now? Exciting!

Never take me seriously when I type a comment at 6:11 a.m. prior to coffee.

Ah, who says I ever take you seriously? [smirk] ~Tim

]]> By: Snowelf http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5027 Snowelf Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:09:53 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5027 [Don’t tell Tom Petty. He’d be… um… heartbroken.*] HAHAHA! Tim I have missed getting over here to visit you!! I call it Looey-Ville, too. --snow <em>Welcome back! I've missed you too. ~Tim</em> [Don’t tell Tom Petty. He’d be… um… heartbroken.*]

HAHAHA!

Tim I have missed getting over here to visit you!!

I call it Looey-Ville, too.

–snow

Welcome back! I’ve missed you too. ~Tim

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5022 Jennifer Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:11:14 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5022 I have to argue with the accent v. dialect issue, and I would argue with that colleague about it directly but I have any number of other issues with her for argumentation that supersede the a v. d issue. I heard some of those actors rehearsing, and there is nothing worse than a bad accent. Think Drew Barrymore in "Ever After" or Anne Hathaway in "Becoming Jane" or Jim Varney in anything. The judge was commenting on the competence of the delivery, nothing more. Dialect incorporates diction (word choice) and specific colloquialisms inherent to one region. Pronunciation is implied when it comes to dialect, but dialect has far more to do with language than with tone. Accent is all about pronunciation. James Baldwin wrote a brilliant essay about the power of language in England--how the inflection, diction, and one's mere carriage can "put your business in the street" and inform the listener all they care to know about you. In America, where we love to THINK that we are classless and "equalitarian", we still judge harshly on such presentations. Some Southern accents are judged as uneducated (i.e. the girl in the NASCAR commercial) while some New England accents are viewed as intentionally snooty. Or we could all just continue morphing into that flat Midland non-accent with zero affect and become even more homogenized. Pardon the rant du jour. I've been ranty lately and I haven't had my coffee yet. <em> Actually, in neither case did the judges indicate that the accent/dialect was poorly delivered. They questioned the choice to use that particular accent/dialect in the first place. One of those was for a performance of a play that repeatedly refers to events in communities "up north" making the choice of a southern accent/dialect natural [in my humble opinion]. And, since it wasn't intended to be a major point in my post, I didn't fully explain the distinction our colleague made between dialect and accent -- so your argument would have to be more with me on that. ~Tim</em> I have to argue with the accent v. dialect issue, and I would argue with that colleague about it directly but I have any number of other issues with her for argumentation that supersede the a v. d issue. I heard some of those actors rehearsing, and there is nothing worse than a bad accent. Think Drew Barrymore in “Ever After” or Anne Hathaway in “Becoming Jane” or Jim Varney in anything. The judge was commenting on the competence of the delivery, nothing more.

Dialect incorporates diction (word choice) and specific colloquialisms inherent to one region. Pronunciation is implied when it comes to dialect, but dialect has far more to do with language than with tone.

Accent is all about pronunciation.

James Baldwin wrote a brilliant essay about the power of language in England–how the inflection, diction, and one’s mere carriage can “put your business in the street” and inform the listener all they care to know about you. In America, where we love to THINK that we are classless and “equalitarian”, we still judge harshly on such presentations. Some Southern accents are judged as uneducated (i.e. the girl in the NASCAR commercial) while some New England accents are viewed as intentionally snooty.

Or we could all just continue morphing into that flat Midland non-accent with zero affect and become even more homogenized.

Pardon the rant du jour. I’ve been ranty lately and I haven’t had my coffee yet.

Actually, in neither case did the judges indicate that the accent/dialect was poorly delivered. They questioned the choice to use that particular accent/dialect in the first place. One of those was for a performance of a play that repeatedly refers to events in communities “up north” making the choice of a southern accent/dialect natural [in my humble opinion].

And, since it wasn’t intended to be a major point in my post, I didn’t fully explain the distinction our colleague made between dialect and accent — so your argument would have to be more with me on that. ~Tim

]]> By: lime http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5020 lime Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:46:29 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5020 interesting delineation between dialect and accent. i always thought region differences within the country were accents and between countries speaking the same language were dialects, but what do i know? apparently not much, lol. i did know how to say louisville though and i can say that lancaster, PA is pronounced LANKaster, not LANcaster. reading, PA is pronounced redding. thanks for playing along:) <em>I knew how to pronounce Lancaster and Reading. Maybe it's because my parents moved to Louisville from Trenton, NJ and I've been up that way a few times. ~Tim</em> interesting delineation between dialect and accent. i always thought region differences within the country were accents and between countries speaking the same language were dialects, but what do i know? apparently not much, lol.

i did know how to say louisville though and i can say that lancaster, PA is pronounced LANKaster, not LANcaster. reading, PA is pronounced redding.

thanks for playing along:)

I knew how to pronounce Lancaster and Reading. Maybe it’s because my parents moved to Louisville from Trenton, NJ and I’ve been up that way a few times. ~Tim

]]> By: m http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/comment-page-1/#comment-5019 m Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:32:24 +0000 http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/2008/03/05/speaking-of-talking/#comment-5019 I am from Indiana. I call it Looey-ville. I can't stand it when people cut the word down to one syllable. Luhvul...oh for pete's sake does it really hurt that much to say the whole word!? <em>Hurt? I dunno. Pro'lly would. ~Tim</em> I am from Indiana. I call it Looey-ville. I can’t stand it when people cut the word down to one syllable. Luhvul…oh for pete’s sake does it really hurt that much to say the whole word!?

Hurt? I dunno. Pro’lly would. ~Tim

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